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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to include the http:// part of URLs; not all start with &quot;www&quot;. 

I disagree about a workbike not needing to fit as well as any other! I thought Xtracycle should make a integrated bike, too, and I floated my design as a candidate. Individual feedback was positive, but I guess the time wasn&#039;t right. Takes a lot of capital to do a whole bike, and the cargo bike market in familiar parts of the world is, well, practically non-existent. Meanwhile, regular Xtracycles work awful good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to include the http:// part of <span class="caps">URL</span>s; not all start with &#8220;www&#8221;. </p>
<p>I disagree about a workbike not needing to fit as well as any other! I thought Xtracycle should make a integrated bike, too, and I floated my design as a candidate. Individual feedback was positive, but I guess the time wasn&#8217;t right. Takes a lot of capital to do a whole bike, and the cargo bike market in familiar parts of the world is, well, practically non-existent. Meanwhile, regular Xtracycles work awful good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio Babilonia</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauricio Babilonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh...not sure where that URL went. It referred to the Worldbike press release on the xaccess.org Web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh&#8230;not sure where that <span class="caps">URL </span>went. It referred to the Worldbike press release on the xaccess.org Web site.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio Babilonia</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauricio Babilonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think improved lateral stiffness would be a good argument in favor of Xtracycle producing their own frameset. It seems as though they already have a prototype:

 (though I&#039;m not sure exactly how the relationship between the two companies is structured.)

Their response on their forums has been that they don&#039;t want to make a wide variety of sizes, but I bet they would do very well with about 3--small, medium and large. It&#039;s not as if a cargo bike needs to fit like a custom touring or racing bike.

I&#039;m guessing they&#039;ve seen your design...any reaction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think improved lateral stiffness would be a good argument in favor of Xtracycle producing their own frameset. It seems as though they already have a prototype:</p>
<p> (though I&#8217;m not sure exactly how the relationship between the two companies is structured.)</p>
<p>Their response on their forums has been that they don&#8217;t want to make a wide variety of sizes, but I bet they would do very well with about 3&#8211;small, medium and large. It&#8217;s not as if a cargo bike needs to fit like a custom touring or racing bike.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing they&#8217;ve seen your design&#8230;any reaction?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lateral rigidity is great with Xtravois - that was, indeed, a major design goal. I can get out of the saddle and honk up a hill with an adult passenger without the rear end going all noodly. One nice thing about Stokemonkey is you almost never need to get out of the saddle; you can apply lots of power more smoothly, so you don&#039;t induce the wobbles.
 
Stiffness actually a bit overkill with Xtravois, as it&#039;s pretty heavy and rides like an empty schoolbus when not heavily loaded. 

I haven&#039;t ridden an Instigator/Xtracycle myself, but 2 people I&#039;ve talked to who own them are very happy with the overall solid feel.

Try resizing your browser window and notice the image dimensions change. I think this coding technique confuses some browsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lateral rigidity is great with Xtravois &#8211; that was, indeed, a major design goal. I can get out of the saddle and honk up a hill with an adult passenger without the rear end going all noodly. One nice thing about Stokemonkey is you almost never need to get out of the saddle; you can apply lots of power more smoothly, so you don&#8217;t induce the wobbles.</p>
<p>Stiffness actually a bit overkill with Xtravois, as it&#8217;s pretty heavy and rides like an empty schoolbus when not heavily loaded. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t ridden an Instigator/Xtracycle myself, but 2 people I&#8217;ve talked to who own them are very happy with the overall solid feel.</p>
<p>Try resizing your browser window and notice the image dimensions change. I think this coding technique confuses some browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio Babilonia</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauricio Babilonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for the reply. I hadn&#039;t noticed that it was linked--for some reason my cursor doesn&#039;t change when I mouse over that image in my browser.

Also, I&#039;m a great admirer of the xtravois. Imitation being the highest form of flattery, you should notice that my passenger&#039;s handlebar borrows from your design (though it may not be too apparent in this photo). 

I&#039;m also curious how the xtravois&#039; lateral rigidity compares to that of an ordinary Free Radical-mountain bike combination? I find that mine is quite flexy. (This is also why I&#039;d asked asked about the Instigator...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for the reply. I hadn&#8217;t noticed that it was linked&#8211;for some reason my cursor doesn&#8217;t change when I mouse over that image in my browser.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m a great admirer of the xtravois. Imitation being the highest form of flattery, you should notice that my passenger&#8217;s handlebar borrows from your design (though it may not be too apparent in this photo). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also curious how the xtravois&#8217; lateral rigidity compares to that of an ordinary Free Radical-mountain bike combination? I find that mine is quite flexy. (This is also why I&#8217;d asked asked about the Instigator&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 04:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mauricio -

I did make a point of linking the image to the place I found it, and referencing the image directly rather than making a copy. I try to do this whenever I &quot;pinch&quot; an image. Yours is one of the few good pictures of an Xtracycle with a passenger!

The Instigator is not mine, but that of a Stokemonkey prototype tester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mauricio -</p>
<p>I did make a point of linking the image to the place I found it, and referencing the image directly rather than making a copy. I try to do this whenever I &#8220;pinch&#8221; an image. Yours is one of the few good pictures of an Xtracycle with a passenger!</p>
<p>The Instigator is not mine, but that of a Stokemonkey prototype tester.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio Babilonia</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2005/06/30/old-is-new/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauricio Babilonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 04:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Todd,

I was a little shocked to see my girls at the bottom of this post, what not having been asked for permission and all, but then I remembered that I&#039;d posted it on a public forum, for one thing, and one with no means of contacting the poster at that.

So not that it matters, but yes, you may use it... 8-)

BTW, is that Instigator one of yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Todd,</p>
<p>I was a little shocked to see my girls at the bottom of this post, what not having been asked for permission and all, but then I remembered that I&#8217;d posted it on a public forum, for one thing, and one with no means of contacting the poster at that.</p>
<p>So not that it matters, but yes, you may use it&#8230; 8-)</p>
<p><span class="caps">BTW, </span>is that Instigator one of yours?</p>
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