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		<title>By: Todd (admin)</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-263898</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd (admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are pleased to announce renewed availability of Stokemonkey kits. Please see http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/ for updated product information and ordering form. 

This thread is now closed for comments. We&#039;re working on installing forum software for Stokemonkey discussion and support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are pleased to announce renewed availability of Stokemonkey kits. Please see <a href="http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/" rel="nofollow">http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/</a> for updated product information and ordering form. </p>
<p>This thread is now closed for comments. We&#8217;re working on installing forum software for Stokemonkey discussion and support.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd (admin)</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-245779</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd (admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have received a new test sample of Stokemonkey&#039;s reprogrammed electronics. Installed it today; no problems noted yet. If this checks out, we&#039;ll give thumbs up within a few days to go into production. They will likely arrive in lots of 20 or so every couple weeks, and that is the rate at which new Stokemonkey kits will become available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have received a new test sample of Stokemonkey&#8217;s reprogrammed electronics. Installed it today; no problems noted yet. If this checks out, we&#8217;ll give thumbs up within a few days to go into production. They will likely arrive in lots of 20 or so every couple weeks, and that is the rate at which new Stokemonkey kits will become available.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd (admin)</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-226226</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd (admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arjun, it is not a hard requirement to own an Xtracycle first, but it is a very good idea. Buying a Stokemonkey without owning an Xtracycle first would be like buying solid platinum ice cube trays before owning a freezer or knowing all the things they can unmelt, with or without these most awesome trays. We want to be confident that you understand the compatibility requirements, and are already comfortable biking with cargo and/or passengers. 

The last thing we want is to sell systems to people who&#039;d be happiest and healthiest without motor assistance, if only they&#039;d try it for a few hundred miles.... Regarding the Xtracycle as merely a motor mounting point instead of as something you&#039;d want on your bike in any case is a warning sign. I&#039;m not assuming this is you, Arjun.

I apologize if I seem grumpy in some of the above. It is true that I may be losing the forest of a great market full of happy potential customers for the trees of a few very persistent characters and a cast of hundreds of innocently casual inquirers who don&#039;t seem to get what Stokemonkey&#039;s about anyway. And I apologize deeply to the many patient souls who do get it for the long, long delays. I&#039;m spread thin: I admit it. I hope y&#039;all understand that what&#039;s happening here in Portland with ordinary practical biking is much bigger and frankly more necessary than Stokemonkey.

In the spirit of more frequent updates, the guy programming the electronics has completed his historic &lt;a href=&quot;http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=5652&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ride across Canada&lt;/a&gt; and will be programming on the train back home. And no, he is not the bottleneck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arjun, it is not a hard requirement to own an Xtracycle first, but it is a very good idea. Buying a Stokemonkey without owning an Xtracycle first would be like buying solid platinum ice cube trays before owning a freezer or knowing all the things they can unmelt, with or without these most awesome trays. We want to be confident that you understand the compatibility requirements, and are already comfortable biking with cargo and/or passengers. </p>
<p>The last thing we want is to sell systems to people who&#8217;d be happiest and healthiest without motor assistance, if only they&#8217;d try it for a few hundred miles&#8230;. Regarding the Xtracycle as merely a motor mounting point instead of as something you&#8217;d want on your bike in any case is a warning sign. I&#8217;m not assuming this is you, Arjun.</p>
<p>I apologize if I seem grumpy in some of the above. It is true that I may be losing the forest of a great market full of happy potential customers for the trees of a few very persistent characters and a cast of hundreds of innocently casual inquirers who don&#8217;t seem to get what Stokemonkey&#8217;s about anyway. And I apologize deeply to the many patient souls who do get it for the long, long delays. I&#8217;m spread thin: I admit it. I hope y&#8217;all understand that what&#8217;s happening here in Portland with ordinary practical biking is much bigger and frankly more necessary than Stokemonkey.</p>
<p>In the spirit of more frequent updates, the guy programming the electronics has completed his historic <a href="http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=5652&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a" rel="nofollow">ride across Canada</a> and will be programming on the train back home. And no, he is not the bottleneck.</p>
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		<title>By: Arjun D.</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-226094</link>
		<dc:creator>Arjun D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it is still true that Stokemonkey is intended solely for Xtracycle-standard longbikes. It does not make sense as merely a personal transport option like other electric bikes, but as a cargo/passenger solution for hilly areas. If you don’t intend to haul major weight up major grades, there is very likely a better solution on the market, and we will dissuade you from pursuing a Stokemonkey when they are again available.&quot;

I wanted to find out if this statement was was directed towards people who do not have an xtracycle yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it is still true that Stokemonkey is intended solely for Xtracycle-standard longbikes. It does not make sense as merely a personal transport option like other electric bikes, but as a cargo/passenger solution for hilly areas. If you don&acirc;t intend to haul major weight up major grades, there is very likely a better solution on the market, and we will dissuade you from pursuing a Stokemonkey when they are again available.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wanted to find out if this statement was was directed towards people who do not have an xtracycle yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-208552</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am continually deluged in requests for “updates” on availability, such that I spend much more time filtering through them than actually advancing the availability date!&lt;/i&gt;

So mightn&#039;t it be a worthwhile investment of time, then, to spend a few minutes per week giving even a brief status update like the one above?  And in a more visible place, either on the CC or SM main pages?  (You could open every one with &quot;Today is &lt;i&gt;date&lt;/i&gt; and we &lt;b&gt;do not&lt;/b&gt; have a ship date.&quot; :-)

I&#039;m sure you&#039;d still get &lt;b&gt;some&lt;/b&gt; inquiries, but more-frequent and more-visible updates might reduce the noise enough to be a net time gain overall.

Just sayin&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am continually deluged in requests for &acirc;updates&acirc; on availability, such that I spend much more time filtering through them than actually advancing the availability date!</i></p>
<p>So mightn&#8217;t it be a worthwhile investment of time, then, to spend a few minutes per week giving even a brief status update like the one above?  And in a more visible place, either on the CC or SM main pages?  (You could open every one with &#8220;Today is <i>date</i> and we <b>do not</b> have a ship date.&#8221; :-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d still get <b>some</b> inquiries, but more-frequent and more-visible updates might reduce the noise enough to be a net time gain overall.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Todd (admin)</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-203809</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd (admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stokemonkey is awaiting some reprogramming of the electronics that are part of this product revision. We discovered these issues on our &lt;a href=&quot;http://clevercycles.com/?p=238&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vacation trip&lt;/a&gt;. The problems relate more to usability and configurability than to performance, so the changes should not require extensive re-testing, as fun as that might be. The engineer who programs the electronics is completing a &lt;a href=&quot;http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=5652&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ride across Canada&lt;/a&gt; on an assisted Xtracycle on a few dollars worth of electricity. He should be back at the end of September, putting late October, realistically, as the earliest possible shipping date for new Stokemonkey systems. 

Meanwhile, we are shipping certain updated components to current Stokemonkey owners to improve their safety and reliability. Surly Big Dummy mounting hardware is available for those wanting to transfer their kits over to these new bikes. Stokemonkey replacement battery packs are again available, too (large now, small very soon). 

Also, I am continually deluged in requests for &quot;updates&quot; on availability, such that I spend much more time filtering through them than actually advancing the availability date! I don&#039;t suspect this will help much, but please: I won&#039;t estimate availability in advance. And I will publicize availability. It is not helpful to keep asking. I am keeping no secrets, but I don&#039;t feel it is productive to &quot;update&quot; which wires were stripped or which bolts greased on a weekly basis, nor indeed ever.

I am also frequently asked questions about Stokemonkey that are answered in the Stokemonkey FAQ and compatibility sections: http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/faq/ ; http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/compatibility/ . While these documents are in need of minor revision, it is still true that Stokemonkey is intended solely for Xtracycle-standard longbikes. It does not make sense as merely a personal transport option like other electric bikes, but as a cargo/passenger solution for hilly areas. If you don&#039;t intend to haul major weight up major grades, there is very likely a better solution on the market, and we will dissuade you from pursuing a Stokemonkey when they are again available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stokemonkey is awaiting some reprogramming of the electronics that are part of this product revision. We discovered these issues on our <a href="http://clevercycles.com/?p=238" rel="nofollow">vacation trip</a>. The problems relate more to usability and configurability than to performance, so the changes should not require extensive re-testing, as fun as that might be. The engineer who programs the electronics is completing a <a href="http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=5652&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a " rel="nofollow">ride across Canada</a> on an assisted Xtracycle on a few dollars worth of electricity. He should be back at the end of September, putting late October, realistically, as the earliest possible shipping date for new Stokemonkey systems. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, we are shipping certain updated components to current Stokemonkey owners to improve their safety and reliability. Surly Big Dummy mounting hardware is available for those wanting to transfer their kits over to these new bikes. Stokemonkey replacement battery packs are again available, too (large now, small very soon). </p>
<p>Also, I am continually deluged in requests for &#8220;updates&#8221; on availability, such that I spend much more time filtering through them than actually advancing the availability date! I don&#8217;t suspect this will help much, but please: I won&#8217;t estimate availability in advance. And I will publicize availability. It is not helpful to keep asking. I am keeping no secrets, but I don&#8217;t feel it is productive to &#8220;update&#8221; which wires were stripped or which bolts greased on a weekly basis, nor indeed ever.</p>
<p>I am also frequently asked questions about Stokemonkey that are answered in the Stokemonkey <span class="caps">FAQ </span>and compatibility sections: <a href="http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/faq/" rel="nofollow">http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/faq/</a> ; <a href="http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/compatibility/" rel="nofollow">http://cleverchimp.com/products/stokemonkey/compatibility/</a> . While these documents are in need of minor revision, it is still true that Stokemonkey is intended solely for Xtracycle-standard longbikes. It does not make sense as merely a personal transport option like other electric bikes, but as a cargo/passenger solution for hilly areas. If you don&#8217;t intend to haul major weight up major grades, there is very likely a better solution on the market, and we will dissuade you from pursuing a Stokemonkey when they are again available.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-187725</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dealer network would totally rock.  Don&#039;t suppose you have anyone in mind near Boston?  My wife and I have been following Stokemonkey and are finally ready to pull the trigger on a purchase.  We only await their availability.  Would it be possible to tell beforehand if it would work on our Del Sol Lowboy Xtracycle?  It&#039;s similar to an Electra Townie, but I&#039;m not entirely certain about the available space in the rear triangle.  If I need to get a new frame for the Xtra, I&#039;d like to start looking now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dealer network would totally rock.  Don&#8217;t suppose you have anyone in mind near Boston?  My wife and I have been following Stokemonkey and are finally ready to pull the trigger on a purchase.  We only await their availability.  Would it be possible to tell beforehand if it would work on our Del Sol Lowboy Xtracycle?  It&#8217;s similar to an Electra Townie, but I&#8217;m not entirely certain about the available space in the rear triangle.  If I need to get a new frame for the Xtra, I&#8217;d like to start looking now.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd (admin)</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-185002</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd (admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, we will do both. We are in discussion with prospective dealers now. Dealer candidates are Xtracycle-savvy full-service bicycle shops (i.e., those who sell human-powered vehicles either exclusively or primarily) with possible exceptions for those who can source and support their own high quality battery/charger packages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, we will do both. We are in discussion with prospective dealers now. Dealer candidates are Xtracycle-savvy full-service bicycle shops (i.e., those who sell human-powered vehicles either exclusively or primarily) with possible exceptions for those who can source and support their own high quality battery/charger packages.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean in Austin</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/2007/05/25/stokemonkey-sales-marketing-pause/comment-page-2/#comment-184450</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you decided whether to set-up Stokemonkey dealers, or will you continue to market &amp; support direct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you decided whether to set-up Stokemonkey dealers, or will you continue to market &amp; support direct?</p>
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		<title>By: Clever Cycles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Family bike trip: Portland to Breitenbush and back again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clever Cycles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Family bike trip: Portland to Breitenbush and back again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] needed to put in some extended test miles on new production elements of Stokemonkey, our elusive electric assist system specific to longtails, and this sounded like a good [...]</description>
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