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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57525</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bruce Wilson - that&#039;s pretty cool.  I&#039;ve never seen one like that before.  I like it because it&#039;s cheaper than a Bakfiets and it&#039;s made vastly closer to where I&#039;d be using it.  The latter is an embodied energy issue for me but it&#039;s been pointed out that moving a bike by cargo ship is a relatively efficient process (do they come all the way to Portland?).  If I were for real on this issue I&#039;d pull down my copy of the Atomic Zombie&#039;s Bike Building Bonanza, get out the torch and hit the scrap yard.  Reduce, reuse, recycle.

The Bakfiets would solve more of the problems I&#039;m negotiating as I move closer to a divorce from my car.  A trike would solve even more of them.

Henry Workcycles has some pretty good looking trikes on their website.  I&#039;m betting one will turn up in a Clever container and I&#039;ll hitch hike to Portland to get it.  Oh sorry, that was the dream I had the other night ... at least my wife said I was dreaming ;-)

In the mean time I&#039;ll probably put a much more affordable Freeradical on my 20 year old Schwinn and save my pennies (and my gas money!) for a Stoke Monkey.

Congratulations to the Clever Cycles families on the expansion.  Denver is a more than tolerable place to live and bike but you&#039;re all part of some pretty exciting stuff out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruce Wilson &#8211; that&#8217;s pretty cool.  I&#8217;ve never seen one like that before.  I like it because it&#8217;s cheaper than a Bakfiets and it&#8217;s made vastly closer to where I&#8217;d be using it.  The latter is an embodied energy issue for me but it&#8217;s been pointed out that moving a bike by cargo ship is a relatively efficient process (do they come all the way to Portland?).  If I were for real on this issue I&#8217;d pull down my copy of the Atomic Zombie&#8217;s Bike Building Bonanza, get out the torch and hit the scrap yard.  Reduce, reuse, recycle.</p>
<p>The Bakfiets would solve more of the problems I&#8217;m negotiating as I move closer to a divorce from my car.  A trike would solve even more of them.</p>
<p>Henry Workcycles has some pretty good looking trikes on their website.  I&#8217;m betting one will turn up in a Clever container and I&#8217;ll hitch hike to Portland to get it.  Oh sorry, that was the dream I had the other night &#8230; at least my wife said I was dreaming ;-)</p>
<p>In the mean time I&#8217;ll probably put a much more affordable Freeradical on my 20 year old Schwinn and save my pennies (and my gas money!) for a Stoke Monkey.</p>
<p>Congratulations to the Clever Cycles families on the expansion.  Denver is a more than tolerable place to live and bike but you&#8217;re all part of some pretty exciting stuff out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Wilson</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57443</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a better link:

http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a better link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Wilson</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How often does that happen when youâ€™re strapped into a car?! I just wish she were in front of me so we could talk and see the same things more easily. If someone drops a container of dutch cargo bikes and/or trikes on Denver, Iâ€™m so there.&quot;

I know what you mean; I notice so many things cycling around town that I wouldn&#039;t in a car.

As for having your child in front, I presume that she&#039;s too big for a Kangaroo seat, but what about something like this? 
http://www.rad-nnovations.com/KidzTandem/kidztandem.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How often does that happen when youâ€™re strapped into a car?! I just wish she were in front of me so we could talk and see the same things more easily. If someone drops a container of dutch cargo bikes and/or trikes on Denver, Iâ€™m so there.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know what you mean; I notice so many things cycling around town that I wouldn&#8217;t in a car.</p>
<p>As for having your child in front, I presume that she&#8217;s too big for a Kangaroo seat, but what about something like this?<br />
<a href="http://www.rad-nnovations.com/KidzTandem/kidztandem.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rad-nnovations.com/KidzTandem/kidztandem.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57439</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commuting in Denver two weeks ago I came on a movie crew too.  They were set up around Confluence Park with some people on 15th street were I access the bike path.  I paused to see what they were up to when I saw what looked like a short log in the Platte River but it was moving up stream.  Then I noticed the big flat tail and said to my daughter (2 yrs) riding in the Burley, &quot;Look Zoe, a beaver!&quot;  She was very excited.

How often does that happen when you&#039;re strapped into a car?!  I just wish she were in front of me so we could talk and see the same things more easily.  If someone drops a container of dutch cargo bikes and/or trikes on Denver, I&#039;m so there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commuting in Denver two weeks ago I came on a movie crew too.  They were set up around Confluence Park with some people on 15th street were I access the bike path.  I paused to see what they were up to when I saw what looked like a short log in the Platte River but it was moving up stream.  Then I noticed the big flat tail and said to my daughter (2 yrs) riding in the Burley, &#8220;Look Zoe, a beaver!&#8221;  She was very excited.</p>
<p>How often does that happen when you&#8217;re strapped into a car?!  I just wish she were in front of me so we could talk and see the same things more easily.  If someone drops a container of dutch cargo bikes and/or trikes on Denver, I&#8217;m so there.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Finn</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57343</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just cruised around the paparazzi with haste. They were absorbed in what they wre doing, but had set themselves up against the fence, mostly off the path. I noticed one of them checking out the osprey nest with their binoculars, which gave me a first impression that they were birdwatchers, but the two foot long telephoto lenses trained on the rollerskating rink, bathed in high intensity lights, diffused by umbrellas, tipped me off.

Nobody has figured out who the star(s?) is  yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just cruised around the paparazzi with haste. They were absorbed in what they wre doing, but had set themselves up against the fence, mostly off the path. I noticed one of them checking out the osprey nest with their binoculars, which gave me a first impression that they were birdwatchers, but the two foot long telephoto lenses trained on the rollerskating rink, bathed in high intensity lights, diffused by umbrellas, tipped me off.</p>
<p>Nobody has figured out who the star(s?) is  yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57320</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are, run &#039;em over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are, run &#8216;em over!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce A. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57319</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce A. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they weren&#039;t blocking the path.  I&#039;ve had harsh words for people who&#039;ve done that here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they weren&#8217;t blocking the path.  I&#8217;ve had harsh words for people who&#8217;ve done that here.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Finn</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57312</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife said the same thing about the cropping issue. I will modify my shots accordingly. I try to take photos of all cool things bicycle related, so I will include those also. For now I am focusing on compelling images.

As for riding position, I rock the moustache bar, so I have the option of hunching over if I get a nasty headwind, but generally I&#039;m sitting up. On the bike path I&#039;m riding no-hands, because I&#039;m tired after working all day on the Meier and Frank building remodel.

Non sequitor: today I saw paparazzi set up with huge telephoto lenses on the Springwater Corridor across from the Oaks Bottom Skating rink. They are apparently shooting a movie there with someone worth photographing. It was a funny image I unfortunately did not capture photographically, but it&#039;s easy to imagine: about eight paparazzi set up with tripods on the bike path.

Thanks for checking out my shots and the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife said the same thing about the cropping issue. I will modify my shots accordingly. I try to take photos of all cool things bicycle related, so I will include those also. For now I am focusing on compelling images.</p>
<p>As for riding position, I rock the moustache bar, so I have the option of hunching over if I get a nasty headwind, but generally I&#8217;m sitting up. On the bike path I&#8217;m riding no-hands, because I&#8217;m tired after working all day on the Meier and Frank building remodel.</p>
<p>Non sequitor: today I saw paparazzi set up with huge telephoto lenses on the Springwater Corridor across from the Oaks Bottom Skating rink. They are apparently shooting a movie there with someone worth photographing. It was a funny image I unfortunately did not capture photographically, but it&#8217;s easy to imagine: about eight paparazzi set up with tripods on the bike path.</p>
<p>Thanks for checking out my shots and the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: AllanF</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57299</link>
		<dc:creator>AllanF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, very nice work Patrick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, very nice work Patrick.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sandblom</title>
		<link>http://clevercycles.com/blog/2007/10/03/elsewhere-4/comment-page-1/#comment-57283</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Sandblom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, nice pictures! Thanks for sharing! I suggest you crop them in the style of the original Copenhagen blog. It presents the subject better. If you want to have your own twist, consider allowing some handsome gentlemen to mingle with your lovely ladies.

Generally, I think the upright regal posture is more elegant than the forward-leaning style. Leaning forward makes your back look humped. It makes it look like you&#039;re really working hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, nice pictures! Thanks for sharing! I suggest you crop them in the style of the original Copenhagen blog. It presents the subject better. If you want to have your own twist, consider allowing some handsome gentlemen to mingle with your lovely ladies.</p>
<p>Generally, I think the upright regal posture is more elegant than the forward-leaning style. Leaning forward makes your back look humped. It makes it look like you&#8217;re really working hard.</p>
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